We will certainly look at this. But please bear in mind that it’s e-ink, and we have already done quite a lot of optimization.
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Our commitment within the software team is as follows: Mudita OS K is currently being maintained in good condition by our team. This means that we analyze the changes in newer Android versions, and if any security updates apply to our system version (some may not, due to the changes we already made), we will implement them. I hope it will work flawlessly 
That is our goal.
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Howdy, fellow Swede here. I run both Swish and BankID on the MK without issues so far. In BankID it says it won’t run without Google Play services when it starts, but I can just close this message by pressing the back button. It then works normally. I haven’t tried scanning and paying with Swish, but I can send money to a friend, and it opens the camera when I press scan, so it should work.
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Thank you @Michal_Kicinski . For what it’s worth, the Mudita Kompakt has genuinely been a big improvement in my life. With other minimalist phones I’ve had, they’ll be fun for a couple of days and then there will be something missing where I need to take out my SIM card and go back to the old smartphone. I’ve also spent a long time using dumbed down smartphones, but they still end up cluttered with too many things stealing away my attention. But not with the Mudita Kompakt - two weeks in, and it’s the first non-smartphone I’ve ever had where I haven’t had to “switch back” to an Android/iOS phone. The unique design decisions (no notifications, offline+ switch, no google services) have all made me feel a bit more calm and focused day-to-day, and given me a way to escape the smartphone black hole.
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So sorry it is not for certain you will have turn by turn directions? Not a big deal , but that would require me to sideload a directions app I rather not sideload anything, I thought turn by turn directions was going to be implemented in a update
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The Maps app NEVER having turn-by-turn directions is distressing to me, too. Yes, I sideloaded HERE WeGo, which does a good job with speaking turn-by-turn directions. But, its maps are NOT optimized for E Ink, and being able to glance at a navigational map – or at least big turn-left / turn-right arrows – while driving is important. @urszula already calmed me down about the missing group-texting support in the SMS app coming soon after the initial launch, but lack of turn-by-turn support in the Maps app now is making me wonder again whether to return my Kompakt before my 14-day trial ends. I have group-texting support and spoken turn-by-turn directions as well as readable maps in my flip-phone, which I have been hoping to replace with the Kompakt. Now, that hope is fading again.
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Oh thats too bad, yeah turn by turn would be nice, I mean I do have a old school gps in my car so it does not impact me that much, but I can see it annoying quite a few people, hopefully enough people give them feedback to push them to put in turn by turn or just give us a text based turn by turn, like a list of the steps to get to a location, even that is good enough
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Honestly for e-ink and the idea behind the Kompakt I think simply a text based turn-by-turn with large arrows would be awesome. Divide the screen in thirds and use the top two thirds for the next direction, showing a large arrow and the name of the exit/street. Then show the next turn on the bottom third. If you swipe up you get a list of all the steps. I don’t think 3d view of the map is really necessary and might just be annoying on e-ink.
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I agree with the importance of navigation, and group SMS (and basic music organization and keyboard improvements).
It’s easy to explain them all away by saying ‘oh but it’s a minimal phone and these things aren’t really necessities’ - however (repeating myself here), without all of these features, the phone would be in many ways equally capable or less capable than a $50 flip phone. These are important improvements to make for a $400 phone (even a minimal one) and really shouldn’t be dismissed. When I saw a phone advertised as having a maps application, music app, messaging app, etc . - there were some implicit expectations there of what the apps would do, even if the features weren’t explicitly written.
None of these very basic expectations are entering unreasonable or “smartphone” territory, and they should be prioritized urgently.
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^ Brilliant!
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Could probably add a swipe down as well and show the map, top-down, zoomed to the level to just show the next two to three turns. To avoid eink ghosting issues make the ‘progress’/‘current position’ just be a wider/bolder line so it can update current position without relying on an icon.
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Yeah that is enough for me to be honest
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The problem with the Lightphone company is that everything goes through their systems:
Want music on your system? It goes through their servers.
Want to receive messages from friends and family? It goes through their servers.
Want voice-to-text? It goes through their system for analysis.
Want contacts loaded on your phone? It has to be processed and added by their system(s).
I contacted them about their Privacy Policy since they own, for all intents and purposes, everything but the hardware you hold, and it boiled down to “Trust us”. Their email stated that the company does get all that information, but since it’s not a lot and since they wrote how they will use that information in their policy, it’s okay.
There is a blogger that put it well: “Digital minimalism does not equal privacy.” (see: On Giving Light Phone my Contacts List | Welcome to The Privacy Dad's Blog!)
Compare their non-response to Mudita, as a company, and I much prefer Mudita’s stance. As a network and cybersecurity tech for quite some time, I try to get the smallest online cross-section as possible. Consider your online presence like radar: Your presence will be noted, but you can either appear as an Antonov An-225 or something the size of a marble, such as the B-21 Raider. Mudita Kompakt even allows one to completely disconnect, physically, from triangulation technology and other hardware.
Mudita, as a company, seems to be more orientated towards privacy, as the company has explicitly stated; the Kompakt has been designed with privacy in mind, as part of a Mindfulness strategy; and, a user can access the phone through ADB commands or something as simple as a file manager.
For me, that was the deciding factor. I like both companies’ focus on minimalism and love e-ink for my devices; however, Mudita comes so far ahead of all the others in explicit privacy-protecting development that it was an easy decision to make on which company to support.
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Glad Mudita is the one you prefer. It’s a great company.
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These are really good points I have never thought of, it is true everything does go through light and we are just suppose to trust them, never thought of it like that
Yeah I do agree with this if you are advertising it has maps, people are going to assume it has turn by turn directions, you don’t want them assuming that and then getting the device and being disappointed that it is literally just maps, in this day an age a maps app you assume it will have turn by turn directions. You are so close to Mudita , make sure you make these apps fully functional, you left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people with the Mudita Pure, please do not make that mistake again
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Another thing is anomalies, if you want to avoid tracking. If someone stays at home, then disappears, then appears as Antonov few hours later in a different place, this might (I’m not totally sure of that) drive interest of someone to look up the phone number, subscriber data and remember this in case something happens in the area. That’s my guessing. If, say, there’s a rough protest about a debatable new law to be implemented, it’s better to become part of the noise or stay offline for the whole event.
As for the maps, I’d love some directions (not a map view as refresh rate would be harsh for the battery), but I really loved the time when I was fully dependent on routes written down a day before a trip. It was making my brain more active and I remembered the directions for the future, even when I wasn’t going there again I could remember them for a while. With maps telling me where to go, I can fully shut down and never know how to get there in case navigation is not working (I always keep printed maps in my car anyway).
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Update.
I’m finally returning my Kompakt. Right now I am making rather long calls almost on a daily basis, so I make use of the loudspeakers, and the hardware of the Kompakt doesn’t work for me for that basic purpose. The sound department needs a serious update imho.
Having said that, I hope the product is successful and useful for people with needs different than mine. In fact I’m kind of proud of what Mudita, as a company, are trying to do here. And make no mistake, they’ve been already successful at many levels and achieved great things with the Kompakt; for instance when it comes to respecting the privacy and time of their costumers. And there also aspects of the Kompakt that I really love, as I said above.
As a fact I love Mudita’s philosophy and I wish there were more companies like this. So I want to thank you all, Mudita Team, for your hard work and your effort to deliver a humane respectful products and look forward to see what else you might offer in the future
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thank you for your honesty and the nice words. That is a true farewell 
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Sorry it did not work out, which phone will you be using instead?
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