Predictive text / T9 and SD-card

Hello,

This is the first minimalistic phone I see that seems to have all the functions I wish for in a phone. With a musicplayer and meditation timer combined with low SAR, e-ink screen and produced in the E.U. I’m quite keen on pre-ordering this phone.

But before I do that I have 2 concerns which I would like to check.

The first and main concern is the text input for writing text messages. The Nokia’s from old had precise and useful predictions when writing on a numerical keypad, the problem was that there wasn’t a multilanguage support. My question is if there will be support for multiple languages (for example, I write texts in Norwegian, English and Dutch) and if the T9 engine is built in such a way that makes writing on the phone a quick and useful task. As an example, the latest Nokia I tried was the 8110 4g, but the predictions were useless, which made writing on it a disruptive task instead of a useful tool. For now I’m using and old qwerty BlackBerry which is almost at end of life as they say.

My second concern is the lack of an sd-card slot for transferring music files. How much internal memory does the phone have, and can one of the nano sim slots double as an sd-card slot?

The sd-card slot would be nice, but isn’t essential. Text input on the other hand is something that definitely has to be good, since this defines the difference between a nice gadget or a useful tool.

Kind regards, Fabian

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Hey Fabian (@febo_tredve), thank you for your questions.

T9 is patented so although we won’t be using it, we are working on a similar solution for texting. Additional language support will be available via our desktop app when new languages are added. Initially, Mudita Pure will only have English, German, Spanish, Polish and French. I have put in a request for Dutch and Norwegian language updates. It will be possible to connect Mudita Pure to a laptop if you’d like to send longer text messages using a laptop keyboard.

In terms of memory, Mudita Pure has 16 MB SDRAM and 16 GB eMMC flash storage. The SIM card slots are only for SIM cards. If you’re interested in learning more about Mudita Pure’s specs, you can find them here.

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Let me know if I could assist on anything Norwegian as it’s my native language.

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I totally agree with Fabian about text input.
Sorry to hear that Mudita can’t use T9 as that can be a very efficient way to type. I really hope you you guys come up with a system that makes for easy typing!

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I have some fantastic news:
All patents related to T9 that I could find have expired :partying_face:

  • [Oct-2018] worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/024019996/publication/US5818437A?q=pn%3DUS5818437
  • [Sep-2019]https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/025158656/publication/US5953541A?q=pn%3DUS5953541
  • [04-Jan-2020]https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/026694373/publication/US6011554A?q=pn%3DUS6011554

@tiffany I am not interested in

a similar solution for texting

because so far all feature phones I have tried did have some predictive text, but so poorly executed that the experience was closer to torture :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:than to productivity. Switching between Multi-tap and predictive input has also been hell on some of these devices.

I found this website explaining the difference between T9 (which Nokia’s used to have) and iTap by Motorola. My take on this is: T9 is an essential upgrade of multi-tap. With it I can use my phone with my eyes closed and know that I have sent a text message without any auto-correction mixing up what I wrote. iTap’s context-dependent word completions would be nice to have, but only if it can be disabled. And I wouldn’t miss it.

Currently I am using [Type Nine] typenineapp.com (only available for iOS) on my iPhone SE and I love it, but I don’t use it’s swipe feature because with 4 languages enabled at the same time it has too many possibilities to consider and it uses more CPU resources. Maybe Rasmus Porsager would even be interested in sharing his dictionaries with you.

Anyway, I am not pre-ordering this phone right now as I want to be 100% sure that predictive text support is rock solid and predictable. If it is, I’d be willing to pay more than $400, if not it’s not even worth $10 for me.

Sorry for inlining so many links, as a new user I am not allowed to include more than 2 links.

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Is it possible to see a demo of the “T9” similar typing solution when you guys have it working? I currently use the Nokia 3310 3G and have grown accustomed to the T9/predictive text, I’m really curious to see what you guys have come up with!

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Bringing this topic back from the dead. I’m curious to know what Mudita’s solution is to this too, before I spend money. I’ve been left sorely disappointed by the “fake Nokia” KaiOS devices and other keypad phones with their half-baked (lazy?) implementations of text input. It’s too bad, because I’d like to give Mudita the benefit of the doubt on this point and invest in a great product.

To illustrate the impact proper predictive text has had on me, I still have muscle memory from using my Nokia N95 over ten years ago (I picked one up recently and tried, it left me surprised, my thumb just clicked all the right buttons). The dictionary was easy to train, smart, and simply just worked to the point where I could text without looking at the screen at an extremely fast, error-free rate. Can’t quantify it for you in WPM, it was too long ago, but any multitap input method or dumb dictionary like on KaiOS just makes writing any text tediously painful.

Of course these days I don’t text like a sugar fiend, as I did back in the 00’s, but even having to send a few texts a day without proper predictive text input is like drinking a cauldron of sea water. I know there’s a lot of work to develop a multifaceted product like this, but I just wanted to add my voice here. I think once other people remember how horrific multitap is, there will be more complaints. The Nokia KaiOS interface really left a sour taste in my mouth and I would not use a phone with multitap input (or KaiOS) ever again, unless I had to dial emergency dispatch (or maybe Chinese food delivery). Too bad for fake Nokia, but it leaves a wide open market for Mudita to improve on their shortcomings.

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