Just out of curiosity, is there anyone using the Kompakt without sideloading anything on it? How is it going?
It is obviously not for everyone, but there might be a few of us who can live with just the default set of apps.
I am but itās my second day.
I am still wondering should I sideload few things or not, but so far so goodā¦ Feeling calm yet anxious about all the messenger apps Iām going to check in the evening on home laptop. Also white screen somehow drives that so Iām leaving the phone face down. 
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I may eventually use it like that after they increase functionality of the standard apps.
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Please keep posting about your progress here. I need partners in this 
itās challenging
For me day 1 done. So far so good. Trying to handle everything else at home on the computer after work. I felt like reaching for my phone so many times, then realized that I have a Mudita Kompakt, silly me. No Whatsapp.
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This will be my intention when I get the device, I have went 4 years now without apps, and it is a streak I really donāt want to break, the way I think about it I went this many years with apps I thought I needed when I did not, so just because I have a device now where I can sideload apps doesnāt mean I have to, that being said would I sideload slack if I was on a work trip I would, but I would delete it the moment I got home. In my personal life when I am out and about I donāt want a phone with any sort of distraction on it, I have really enjoyed my life the past 4 years with dumbphones, its the simple life life which is the BEST LIFE
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And that is the beauty of the phone, I like the friction, when we make things way to easy for ourselves we just fall into meaningless distraction, we donāt need information at our finger tips, that all BS, an idea we were sold by big tech
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I intend to use it stock, no sideloading.
The only app I was tempted to sideload was Whatsapp but Iāve quit. Told the people I care about directly, everyone else will have to figure it out by my profile pic, black text on white background saying āIāve quit Whatsapp, SMS only now :)ā.
I bought a Sony NW306 digital audio player a few weeks ago which will serve my audio needs, namely Pocketcasts, Audible and music. Kindle Basic for books.
Bliss.
When I go to work tomorrow it will beā¦. interesting! I do have a very locked down, heavily monitored work phone fortunately. Not fortunate in the sense that I intend to use it more, far from it, but it means my own phone can be dumb as a box of frogs. Work phone only on when Iām in work, Iām never on call or anything thank goodness.
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signal is the one im struggling to decide on (and have it installed for now), frankly sms has zero privacy and while my messages are boring, that still doesnāt mean the government should have unfettered access to themā¦
apart from that i dont know what to do about calendar. right now the kompakt doesnāt appear to have an option to even view a remote calendar which would fit my needs.
i could physically write down my agenda for the dayā¦
its going to be a transition though. whatsapp is super common and requires a smart phone to register, im not sure what happens if you dont use your smart phone for a year.
im even considering why not just get a small photo printer and literally post photos to people (use it or lose it)
while im likely not going to be completely no sideload initially, its likely going to be signal and proton calendar, at least until the native calendar supports shared calendars. i dont expect Mudita to support signal so not sure what to do with that.
besides that, the whole point of the phone imo is to be more purposeful, less distracting and more mindful of how we use technology. and with that im decentralizing some of my use cases, the old phone will be going in the safe for now, im trying to get some of the physical āloyaltyā cards for the shops etc. back to the debit card, and printing out boarding passes, having a little note book to actually write down notes and thoughts and reconcile in the evening on the computer.
good choice. i dug out my old player and it works really well for now. not sure about the new touch screen based playersā¦ should make a DAP thread to see what people have
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Yeah I agonised over which DAP to get, but as I specifically wanted Pocketcasts, Audible and Apple Music (which I get āfreeā, not really free but I donāt pay for it, I leech off a family plan) it had to be an Android based one. I do like the physical buttons on the side. Everything else on it is nuked, and besides, the screen is far too pokey to use for anything other than choosing what to listen to.
Back to the Kompakt, I will hit a wall when I want an Uber. Not that often, but still. Iāve added a few taxi companies to my contacts list in places I may require one. Old school!
Itās not like Iām abandoning the digital life, I will still use and enjoy my iPad, but that use is intentional, not the compulsive phone out phone out habit that has come to get on my nerves in recent times.
Thereās loads of detox, dumbphone style videos on YouTube, but I particularly enjoyed this one linked below. The guy goes a month without a phone altogether, never mind a dumbphone, but still tries to live his city based life. Actually got a few tips on the solutions he came up with after he ran into certain obstacles;
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Yeah I left whatsapp years ago now donāt miss it at all, hated being added to all this chat groups and having like 200 missed messages , whatsapp felt like a job lol
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This isnt a bad thing, it cuts out the middle man uber who really imo are much like these other leaching delivery apps, they take huge cuts, they dont treat drivers well, and it has huge negative impacts on the local taxi companies. its not great for the taxi industry
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Whatsapp, unlike Signal or Telegram, tends to lose touch with base sometimes, meaning after few weeks/months of using it only on a PC you open it up the next day and it asks to be paired with your phone again. That felt random, like it was some sort of laptop connectivity timeout failover behavior.
For this reason, and few other ones, Iām leaving smartphone powered off in my car toolkit as an emergency device. 
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Yes definitely. If group chats were not a thing, Iād have less of a problem with it, but itās still a conduit to nonsense.
It feels so freeing that when my phone pings now it will be a one on one human (digital) interaction. Zero links to rage bait Iāve no interest in, no circular never ending discussions, no memes/gifs or other malarkey.
A few years ago I did trying going cold turkey with a basic Nokia. Lasted a couple of days. The problem then was the cold turkey, too much of a leap, no plan in place for audio apps and doomed to failure.
This time is far different and long in gestation - Iād narrowed down to 1 group chat, generally used Whatsapp far less over time, deleted YouTube, buried almost everything bar audio apps in the app library making them a chore to use and access. It worked, screen time down to 30-40 minutes a day on my 13 Mini last few months, to the point where even getting my phone out of pocket irritated me. Iāve done a real number on myself lol, but for a great cause imo.
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I will not be side loading any apps (thankfully I am too lazy to try 
), so will be using this as a minimalist second phone.
I am keeping my seriously dumbed-down iPhone for iMessage / shared calendar / excellent camera / maps / music (and the ability, in an emergency, to re-enable the browser) as my main phone, but plan to slowly move to the Kompakt as my main phone over coming months with the iPhone in my backpack (switched off) if I need it. This is the same set-up I had with the Punkt MP02 back in the day and was great for being present and not doomscrolling.
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Totally agree all my messaging is one to one and I love it, only group chat I have is with friends is over text and its not that active
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Hello there ! First post on the forum 3rd day with the phone.
TL;DR Iām not a smartphone addict who needs a detox but an all-time dumbphone user that needs a little bit more on the road so the Mudita Kompakt as intended is more than enough.
Personal testimony (pardon my english, Iām french) :
It is maybe the Ā« smartest Ā» cell phone i owned in my life since i got my first one twenty years ago so my goal is to use it as intended.
The other one with some (mostly useless) features would be the famous banana phone Nokia 8110 4G (running on KaiOS) that I was happy to use mainly as a USB modem for my computer when i was occasionnaly far from home.
Unfortunately after 2 years of use it ended struggling to do the basics : calling (auto-ending any call i made) and texting (OS so laggy that the keyboard constantly interpreted a single key press as a multiple press; what a joy when you can select 3 to 4 letters per key).
That device made me so mad that I went back to a secondhand dumbphone that was not that shiny but that deserved to be called a phone.
So why not using a regular smartphone when all my relatives constantly propose to give me the one they replaced some time ago ?
Firstly, considering the time I spend (I lose ?) on my home computer, I pragmatically donāt trust myself on my hypothetically usage of a smartphone which is nothing more than a pocket computer.
Secondly, I refuse to be forced by any mean to accept that kind of technology against my will. Behind the hypocritical free will to refuse that devices you are generally socially ostracized. When you bind to this electronic multitool devices to access an ultra-fluid modern lifestyle you are imprisonned in it : Just look at this forum full of people who desperatly need their bank app/chat app/music stream app/etcā¦ I prefer not to be accustomed to that things to enjoy my life as it seems so difficult to get rid off themā¦
Iām not better than anyone but to me it is more than just a pride to refuse some modern injunctions : itās a political ethic that imposes to slow down, find alternative paths and sometimes ā¦ renounce to a certain comfort (I know few people that lives without cellphone at all, even without credit card and I admire them).
For me, to accept a device such as the Mudita Kompakt is in itself a compromise as I will travel by bike in Northern Europe for some months : USB modem, offline maps, taking some photographs, possibly reading ebooks, listening to music and FM/AM Radio if natively implemented (this seems to be possible and would be formidable for my needs!) and last but not least calling and texting my relatives. Paired with a very small computer running on Linux i would be able to do everything I administratively need on the road.
However I still have some concerns about privacy and like @eden Signal would be the only app i may sideload if it becomes my long-term device. Otherwise i still send encrypted mail from my computer with thunderbird. (I mean, like when it wasnāt even an option with my dumbphone x) )
Sorry for the novel and thanks for reading
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Iām using it without sideloading, and itās awesome! It really makes you be very intentional about its use. I read on the subway, took some notes in the note app, and tried some meditation. After three days, I think I wonāt sideload anything. The only issue Iāve faced is that the alarm seems to ring some minutes late. Iāve seen some users complaining about the same. I hope the team comes up with a solution soon
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Otherwise weāll have to set our alarms a few minutes earlier, with 5 minutes as there is no smaller increment. 
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@thurakanda turns out you can do smaller increments. If you tap on the minutes box you get a text entry to put what you want in instead of the up/down arrows
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