Need for a 5G Kompakt NA Edition

Team Mudita, apparently 4G is being phased out in the US. See link at end of message. Any plans of a 5G Kompakt?

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Is 2G or 3G still a thing at all?

In my place they are phasing out 3G but kinda pushing back phasing out of 2G since many critical services rely on that.
Drawback for sideloaded apps throughput on the road though, so I get the concern.

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That is a rumour and honestly I don’t see 4g disappearing that fast, look how long it took 3g to disappear, by the time it does go away which is probably in like 5-10 years, you will be onto a new device

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New device? I guess…then they need to start working on the Kompakt 2.0 5G edition :slight_smile:

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Eventually they will release a new phone, don’t see this being the companies last, no way. But like I said 4g is not going anywhere any time soon

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I’ll pass this info on to the team & see what they have to say about this. I mean, that LTE will eventually be phased out is not implausible, but even the article says that remaining LTE support might persist until 2035 for legacy devices.
That’s 10 years from now :slight_smile:

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At somepoint I’d be interested in a 5G compatible model as I live semi rural and spend time in places where there is limited non 5G coverage. Ideally there is an option to disable and revert to 4G when not needed.

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When Mudita goes 5G than I’m out.

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Curious as to the reasoning…why?

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@rwten fair, but maybe they can have 2 models

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5G signals have to be very strong to travel travel far. I’m 100% convinced these waves are very harmful for people, animals and plants.

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Hmm…interesting. I thought it was non-ionized radiation that had been checked by WHO and other health organizations. From what I understand, there are different types of 5G:

Low-band 5G (below 1 GHz)

  • Range: Similar to 4G, roughly 2-10 miles
  • Speed: Modest improvement over 4G
  • This is what carriers use for wide coverage

Mid-band 5G (1-6 GHz)

  • Range: About 1-2 miles
  • Speed: Significantly faster than 4G
  • Good balance of speed and coverage

High-band 5G/mmWave (24-100 GHz)

  • Range: Only 300-1,500 feet (about a city block)
  • Speed: Extremely fast (multi-gigabit)
  • Easily blocked by walls, trees, even rain

I think carriers need low band to travel further and from what I can gather, it is less of a health concern than high band. Perhaps I am mistaken? As I understand it, lower band penetrates the body more deeply BUT is absorbed less efficiently - more like TV and older cell networks.

I don’t know. There is so much stuff out there…I am more concerned about plastics than 5G. But I understand the concern and by no means trying to say it is not valid - just saying I only have so much bandwidth (no pun intended) and plastics would be a higher priority but inescapable. Read this, on me.

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AFAIU there’s no 100% agreement of no impact of non-ionizing radiation. Hypothetically, if fraction of a fraction of CO2 increase in the atmosphere can lead to a catastrophe, why wouldn’t heating up your cells by a fraction of a degree celsius lead to some long-term side effects. :smiley: Also think about resonance of some body cell components.

But that’s just me guessing. I saw even the EC had some studies and it’s not fully clear…

But then, it’s already there. Even if you don’t have a 5G phone or any phone, you’re exposed to EMF.

Any radio-wave contraption needs strong signal to reach far, lower frequencies reach farther than higher frequencies (talk about those howler monkeys or whales or submarine ultra low frequencies to make communication feasible). Also see FM radio, how strong must that be to reach anywhere with very few transmitters?

5G assumes smaller cells for small area coverage with high density (see Internet of Bodies, Homespital and other “brilliant” surveillance-with-a-bonus ideas). But nobody wants to pay that much for infrastructure, or they don’t get the idea. So 5G stations are usually spread with same density as 4G or 3G.

Yet, it can be strong in close vicinity. The inverse square law says that the signal strength is getting quadrisected (-6 dB) for every doubling of the distance (e.g. 30 dBm EIRP, -17 dBm after the first meter at least in WiFi on 5 GHz - near field; -23 dBm after 2nd meter, -29 dBm after 4th meter, -35 dBm after 8th meter and so on).

Right now, my phone has the received signal strength of -110 dBm. That translates to 1*[10^(-11)] mW, that’d give what, 10 femtowatts? 0.01 of a pikowatt. That’s nothing compared to sitting close to Wi-Fi coming out of your laptop or BT headphones on your head or the phone next to your ear but as I said earlier, particular frequency impact might have to be studied further.

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Waves don’t always have to be strong to travel far, there’s more to it than that. 5g uses different bands which require less energy. It’s actually more energy-efficient than 4g, which means you are likely being exposed to less radiation overall.

Regardless, as stated earlier in this thread it’s pretty much a must have in some areas. 4g coverage is terrible in my area.

Plus, I don’t see why it would be a dealbreaker. In most phones, you can choose to disable 5g and just use 4g and lower. Just like on my MK I could choose to use 3g instead of 4g if I wanted.

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Here 2G and 3G are finished.
I think 4G don’t will last very long.

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It’s just my two cents. There is NO study that tells us 5G (or any other signal) is 100% safe. I’ll stick to max 4G and almost never use my phone. No bluetooth earphones here and also my laptop is on ethernet, no wifi. I know we can’t escape all the radiaton, but I’ll do my little part to escape them where I can. I just don’t trust it.

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Totally agree to all of what you said.

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I agree! All of the testing is VERY outdated with RF effects but we know it causes symptoms for people already. 5G uses beam forcing which is a direct beam at your device which is constant… not healthy at all. Also regarding bluetooth I also stopped using it as it started to make my head/face feel tingly.

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That’s a rumor. LTE and 4G are two different things. Not only that, but usually Older communication networks get phased every other generation. 4G probably won’t start being phased out until they start launching 6G. Those on 4G will most likely be fine for another 5-10 years.

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