I do think installing microg via root or unlocked bootloader would allow the best 3rd party app experience.
I’m in Sweden, and here (as in some other Nordic countries) we have an id-app (“BankID”) that has become the de-facto standard for identifying yourself just about anywhere on the web (banks, healthcare, services…) and increasingly in the real world too. The app works on Windows, Mac, iPhone and Android, and on the latter it needs Google or MicroG. There is no legal requirement to have the app and there are (clunky) workarounds for those who don’t, but pretty much all places assume you have the app. So having it is as practical as it is annoying, and as I am a Linux guy an Android phone is basically the only option. That app is actually the main reason I carry a phone at all, so I will not get a phone that cannot run it. I hope someone will work out a solution with the Kompakt - its small size and long battery life make it a very attractive device for such an app.
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@kirkmahoneyphd I think I’ve said this so many times on this forum 
I’ve never had a banking app on ANY phone.
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Hi Zakalwe,
If the app requires google services to run then please check Andrew Folts latest video on YouTube about Mudita kompakt, he says there that there is a way to side load fake google services (as I understood from short video it is not full google services but something that lies to your phone that it has google services) and use some apps that requires it.
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This points to a really important issue that just isn’t very visible. When people make these digital/phone first solutions they assume everyones life is the same, they dont take into considerations peoples various life transitions, and life circumstances which may knowingly or unknowingly affect their day to day life especially when it comes to technology. And some of these things as most people here I imagine know can really have detrimental effects on your mental health, hence one of the points of this type of phone in the first place.
not to mentioned that the fact that what is essentially a government mandated app relies on Google of all corporations is pretty egregious.
Perhaps it is something you should write to your MP about (or what the equivalent is of an MP in Sweden, your elected government representative for your area) , these kind of issues, especially as they pertain to peoples live circumstances and health are really just not known by anyone never mind government officials. and its something we should be more vocal about or these things won’t change for the better.
im also having to think about how I will need to adapt some of my use cases as I do want to cut down, but I even have a bank account for day to day spending that is essentially ‘app only’ 
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I can confirm we have the same in Denmark, but here you have the option to carry a small code generator with you instead of the app. I have been doing that as the app doesn’t run on Graphene OS either. My experience is that basically I never have to use it. Or whenever I need it, I can easily do it at home.
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Thanks, I just watched it. He seems to run a sideloaded browser to log into Google-requiring sites. That would not work in my case, as that id-app does not use any Google login. Instead it relies on some security framework that googlified Android has under the hood (and which MicroG appears to emulate successfully).
There may be a workaround in things like “Gspace”, which is an app that creates some sort of googlified sandbox on the phone. That was developed for (by?) Huawei back when they were banned from using Android with Google on their phones, and I know some people use it in Sweden with otherwise degoogled phones, just to run that id-app. But I do not really trust that sandbox, given its origins.
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I agree, it is a rather questionable situation. The system was actually initiated and is run by a consortium of banks, not the state - the reason is that here there is no legal requirement for people to have any id at all, but banks wanted to have something to make sure they know who they are dealing with. And then it grew into the current situation. There are actually calls for the state to create its own system, free of potential commercial conflicts. Not sure what would be better. As dubious as it all is, I do also appreciate the practicality, it probably saves me days or even weeks of driving and letter-writing and whatnot per year. I have lived in Germany many years with a very old-school papers/appointments-based bureaucracy, and I do not miss that. 
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My friend moved to Germany a year ago & she was getting some formalities taken care of & she had to use a FAX I haven’t see a fax in about a decade.
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I can confirm that we use lots of paper and bueraucracy in Germany. It’s always fun when just need to change one little thing and have to go to your city hall for that where you might have to draw a placing number even though you already made an appointment…and then comes the wait. One of my friends regularly has to review his visa and always needs to print out everything for the process. Even the stuff that the office already has. So now they have a big pile of redundant paperwork 
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Oooh, yes, faxes! There is a persistent German myth that faxes are somehow legally more binding than other communications, e.g. that the fax log report printed out after sending is legal proof that you delivered your message to the recipient and that they received it (important if there was a deadline and the recipient claims you were too late). But those printouts are trivial to forge and courts have thrown them out in the past. There is no actual legal magic to faxes - but as long as many Germans believe it anyway, it kinda keeps working.
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Yes, it’s more and more of a problem in France too. I’ve never owned a smartphone (apart from a Pinephone running Mobian that I really liked but eventually gave away because I didn’t like having to recharge my phone every day). For certain procedures, I’ve had to print out papers, send them by post and wait for an answer that several times never arrived, which is really frustrating. It’s as if our personal data is safer now that everyone has a (android or ios) smartphone!
I ended up buying a galaxy tab active 2 tablet that supports a SIM card, which I use in these cases and also because one of my children has to scan QR codes to do his homework, but that’s still the exception, and my bank doesn’t require me to use an app (yet?).
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Enough said, I remember days not that long time ago, when people were expected to have a smartphone with a state app to confirm they confine themselves in a household with a selfie upon request. 
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if anyone want to try email . em client email app its work fine so far just installed and works fine
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@buiosu I remember those times. I came back from the US & had to sit at home for 2 wks in the summer of 2020. Sometimes, if you didn’t respond, the police would show up by the house and you had to look out the window. It’s shocking to think that this was FIVE YEARS ago. Seems like a lifetime ago.
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did you unlock your bootloader to install it? apparently it needs root to spoof the play services
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Swede here as well and yes BankID is very important for everyday life. Banking, travel, shopping and so on. And the payment app Swish is becoming more and more common as a payment option.
My solotion when I ran a Nokia with KaiOS and now with the Mudita Kompakt is to have a small smartphone with me in my coat or bag when I need to hade access to BankID.
The need for it was suprisingly less than expected.
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They must have an alternate? what about people with no smart phones? you, the old, the poor, the unhomed etc?
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Yep, I unlocked the bootloader, extracted the boot.img from the 1.1 ota update, patched it with magisk, flashed it, etc.
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and where did u get the ota update zip from?
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